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What happens when societies decide that memorialized landscapes and objects are outmoded or offensive? How to determine which monuments necessitate removal? Acknowledging no easy solutions, Savage clarifies what is at stake when citizens call for revisions to the memorial scene. 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out","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295#t=27.12,31.63"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295/transcript/6915/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their lives in plain view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295#t=31.63,33.57"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295/transcript/6915/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're paradoxical combination\nof obscurity and 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Robert","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295#t=44.12,47.86"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295/transcript/6915/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Musil is probably the most\nquoted on this paradox,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295#t=47.86,52.21"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/70295/transcript/6915/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and so this is a\nlittle quote from 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In Georgia,\nthe question really is:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676#t=299.38,303.52"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676/transcript/20289/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when do we begin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676#t=303.52,305.15"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676/transcript/20289/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676#t=305.15,306.14"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676/transcript/20289/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676#t=306.14,311.829"}]},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676/transcript/20289","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/260/collection_resources/16164/file/99676/transcript/20289/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/020/289/original/Daniel_Pollack-Response.webvtt?1603585610","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/020/289/original/Daniel_Pollack-Response.webvtt?1603585610"}]}]}]}