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I think  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=7.23,13.11"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the better view is that in order to be generally \napplicable a law has to apply to everybody who\u0026#39;s  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=13.11,18.93"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing similar things that cause the same alleged \nharms in Church of Lukumi versus Hialeah which  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=18.93,26.22"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was the animal sacrifice case in 1993 the Supreme \nCourt said: you know what people kill the animals  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=26.22,32.19"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for all kinds of secular reasons from food and for \npest control and there\u0026#39;s hunting, there\u0026#39;s fishing,  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=32.19,36.42"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there\u0026#39;s serious reasons and not so serious \nreasons none of those are regulated the only  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=36.42,40.8"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thing you regulated was religious sacrifice \nof animals. Well, that\u0026#39;s a pretty easy case  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=40.8,45.48"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that\u0026#39;s obviously not generally applicable. Most \nof the cases are more complicated than that;  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=45.48,49.77"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Justice Alito when he was on the court of appeals \nhad a case from Newark, Newark police officers  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=49.77,55.44"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were required to be clean-shaven but there was an \nexception if you had a medical problem that made  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=55.44,60.57"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it difficult to shave, there\u0026#39;s no exception for \nMuslim officers who were religiously obligated to  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=60.57,66.42"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grow a beard. So there\u0026#39;s only one exception and it \napplies only to a small percentage of the force,  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=66.42,72.66"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there are lots of other reasons why people might \nwant to grow beards that weren\u0026#39;t protected if you  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=72.66,77.64"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"want to grow a beard for fashion or cover \na scar in your cheek or because your wife  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=77.64,82.23"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really likes beards or you know whatever, you \nstill had to be clean-shaven. So, you had a  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=82.23,88.71"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rule that applied to most police officers \nbut it didn\u0026#39;t apply to all police officers,  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=88.71,94.02"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and what judge Alito said was look the city has \nmade a judgment here that medical needs are more  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=94.02,99.9"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"important than religious needs and that\u0026#39;s what \nthe requirement of general applicability is really  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=99.9,104.91"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about. The implication of that is if you have \nany kind of secular exception that undermines  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=104.91,111.75"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the government\u0026#39;s interest in regulating religion \nthen you have to have a religious exception as  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=111.75,116.31"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well. Now there\u0026#39;s another line of cases smaller \nnumber that basically says generally applicable  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=116.31,121.77"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is an odd way of talking about bad motives and you \nhave to show the government was actually hostile  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=121.77,128.16"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and struggling and trying to stamp it out those \nare the facts of, you know, sacrifice case I think  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=128.16,133.41"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that\u0026#39;s just not what the word means and it\u0026#39;s not \nhow the Supreme Court explained it in its opinion","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161#t=133.41,140.0"}]},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101161/transcript/20884/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/020/884/original/transcript_1605497345.vtt20201115-1597-i6u77u?1605479345","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/020/884/original/transcript_1605497345.vtt20201115-1597-i6u77u?1605479345"}]}]},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 6 - Douglas Laycock: The Impact of Masterpiece"]},"duration":107.0,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/101/162/small/open-uri20201115-1602-d2yzx9?1605479440","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjPKmgiLBQk","type":"Video","format":"video/youtube","duration":107.0,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["YouTube English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well in terms of the broader body of law, \nthis decision it\u0026#39;s much more consistent with  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=7.62,15.29"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Justice Alito\u0026#39;s views in the newer case: that \nif you have a secular exception somewhere you  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=15.29,20.84"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"got every religious exception too. Much more \nconsistent with that and much less consistent  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=20.84,25.76"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with cases that say you\u0026#39;ve got a single out only \nreligion or you\u0026#39;ve got to have a bad motive,  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=25.76,32.81"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"actual hostility towards religion it\u0026#39;s not \nclear-cut because we were both going on;  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=32.81,38.3"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in masterpiece, there was actual hostility \nand there was uneven enforcement but I think  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=38.3,43.49"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it\u0026#39;s a step in the direction of interpreting \nfree exercise clause in a more protective way  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=43.49,48.8"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that\u0026#39;s the biggest significance with respect to \nthe particular dispute about wedding vendors you  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=48.8,55.22"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know what it portends for that really depends \non what it portends for the larger issue if  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=55.22,60.53"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the next case they say uneven enforcement \nmeans you can\u0026#39;t enforce against the conscience  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162#t=60.53,66.14"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101162/transcript/20885/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"objectors. I think conservative Christians \nwill be pretty... 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It took a long time to pull it together  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=29.78,36.74"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I was writing more stuff, and as time went on and the proliferation of online publications  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=36.74,45.86"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and blogs meant the pace of new publications was accelerating, so the project kept expanding. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=45.86,51.56"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in, you know, 2016 I had to leave and I thought to myself you know you really got  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=51.56,58.01"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to finish this or it\u0026#39;s never gonna happen, so I set everything else aside and pulled it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=58.01,62.21"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all together. And, you know, the pieces - they\u0026#39;re are all kinds of things; they\u0026#39;re articles, there are  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=62.21,67.43"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"newspaper columns, they\u0026#39;re briefs in the Supreme Court, there\u0026#39;s congressional testimony. 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Some of it\u0026#39;s never  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=77.45,83.03"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been published. Some of the Congressional stuff is and really future resources, but  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=83.03,88.58"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even what has been published it\u0026#39;s, you know, it\u0026#39;s scattered all over. Now it\u0026#39;s in one place and it\u0026#39;s  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=88.58,92.87"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"indexed and at least some people are finding it useful and I hope that more people will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165#t=92.87,99.0"}]},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101165/transcript/20888/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/020/888/original/transcript_1605497616.vtt20201115-1597-1cm7svg?1605479616","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/020/888/original/transcript_1605497616.vtt20201115-1597-1cm7svg?1605479616"}]}]},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 6 of 6 - Douglas Laycock: What I am most Proud of"]},"duration":73.0,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/101/166/small/open-uri20201115-1613-1myeb2h?1605479716","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166/content/6/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJtQfsGwsbA","type":"Video","format":"video/youtube","duration":73.0,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166/transcript/20889","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["YouTube English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166/transcript/20889/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The thing I\u0026#39;m most proud of is that throughout my career I\u0026#39;ve defended ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166#t=8.286,14.415"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166/transcript/20889/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the liberty of both sides in America\u0026#39;s conflicts, including the culture wars,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166#t=14.415,20.821"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166/transcript/20889/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"defended the constitutional rights of the people I deeply disagree with, that used to be at the very heart","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166#t=20.821,27.294"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/1098/collection_resources/32403/file/101166/transcript/20889/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of our understanding of constitutional rights. 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