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for Sacred\nMatters we have Kathryn Lofton.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/924/collection_resources/47823/file/121087#t=14.33,18.47"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/924/collection_resources/47823/file/121087/transcript/31799/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kathryn Lofton is professor\nof religious studies,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/924/collection_resources/47823/file/121087#t=18.47,20.97"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/924/collection_resources/47823/file/121087/transcript/31799/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"American studies, history\nand divinity and currently","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/924/collection_resources/47823/file/121087#t=20.97,23.627"},{"id":"https://aviary.ecds.emory.edu/collections/924/collection_resources/47823/file/121087/transcript/31799/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the chair of women's, gender\n\u0026 sexuality studies at 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